[NCNCA] Women's Races

Wed Apr 30 17:17:36 PDT 2008

What if promoters offered a discount for pre-registering multiple racers at
one time? Sportsbase and Bikereg both allow you to register multiple riders
at once. (Incidentally, this is a great feature for teams that are planning
to reg a bunch of riders for a single race.) A promoter could encourage
people to register people in 'bundles' by offering a discount for doing
that. So e.g. $20 for an individual registration or $18 apiece if you do it
as a group.

Exact economics and technical details aside, would something like this make
it more likely that women racers (and others) would pre-reg? And would it be
attractive to promoters? I can't speak for either group, so feel free to
jump in with your opinions. :>

dp

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Kelly Snow <ksnow1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> So far, this statement "Do the promoters a favor and pre-register. "  has
> been made several times. If members of this list want to promote that
> sentiment, I'd recommend a different communication channel. Half the people
> you are trying to reach to probably aren't on this list. Most Cat 4 women
> are new to the sport, new to anything related to cycling organizations and
> events; They aren't aware of this email list.
>
> Dare I mention, getting people to pre-reg by simply telling them to do so
> ass-backwards without incentive to change existing behavior. It is not clear
> to racers, especially new ones, what the benefit of pre-registration is.
> From your average Cat 4's (or any women's field) point of view, the races
> don't sell out so why bother? It's worth $5 in late fee to have the
> flexibility of deciding last minute. It's pretty easy to configure
> sportbaseonline and others to add a $20 late fee if they don't pre-reg. Or
> do what sea otter does and don't offer same  day reg. It seems this is a
> much easier strategy than trying to get every newbie to understand
> pre-registration makes a promoters life easier, and therefore saves women's
> cycling for years to come. C'mon. You know how the world works - "what's in
> it for me, today?"
>
> I'm sorry there isn't more participation - it's makes us all better
> competitors to have bigger fields and more races to choose from. It's only
> after a year of racing that I tuned in to these issues as they are not
> really obvious. I'm hearing a call for someone to step up - and i'm not
> convinced a women's event for women by women for one day is solving the
> issue. It's a step to be sure.
>
> I'd love to help solve this problem constructively. Feel free to contact
> me for that purpose.
>
> Kelly Snow
> Dolce Vita Cycling, Board Member
> Cat 4 (and probably will be for life)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Stephen Langone <Stephen.Langone at flextronics.com>
> >Sent: Apr 30, 2008 7:41 PM
> >To: Eric Smith <redbike at earthlink.net>, Daniele Rossdeutscher <
> daniele at glotrans.com>, ncnca at ncnca.org
> >Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races
> >
> >Is there a book out there like Race Promotion 101?
> >Everyone needs to understand and consider the implications with running
> >such an event(Financial, Legal, Logistical, etc. ).
> >The crux of the issue is getting the fields to fill.   Do the promoters
> >a favor and pre-register.   Lessen the burden on them and help support
> >the growth of "our" sport.
> >
> >my .02cents
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ncnca-bounces+stephen.langone=flextronics.com at ncnca.org
> >[mailto:ncnca-bounces+stephen.langone <ncnca-bounces%2Bstephen.langone>=
> flextronics.com at ncnca.org] On
> >Behalf Of Eric Smith
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:20 PM
> >To: 'Daniele Rossdeutscher'; ncnca at ncnca.org
> >Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races
> >
> >Daniele,
> >
> >Why not promote a women's only race on a Saturday where there are no
> >other races. Make it a short day and have limited purses or go heavy on
> >merchandise. Would be fairly inexpensive to run and would hopefully draw
> >some new women to the race. If it catches on, a series would be the next
> >step.
> >
> >Eric
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ncnca-bounces+redbike=earthlink.net at ncnca.org
> >[mailto:ncnca-bounces+redbike <ncnca-bounces%2Bredbike>=
> earthlink.net at ncnca.org] On Behalf Of
> >Daniele Rossdeutscher
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:53 PM
> >To: ncnca at ncnca.org
> >Subject: [NCNCA] Women's Races
> >
> >As a cat 4 (52-year-old) woman in her 2nd year of racing, I would like
> >to send a request to race promoters: please hold separate races for
> >women in all categories: W1/2, W3, W4 and masters (45+); Don't bother
> >with masters
> >35+ as many of the strongest women are over 35.
> >
> >Sure, the number of racers may be low but if you hold the races, they
> >will come; it may take a few years but women's cycling will grow and
> >prosper. If you don't hold the races, the door remains shut. If there
> >are no masters categories and I have to race with W3s, I am very likely
> >to stay home.
> >
> >If prize money is an issue, then offer fewer prizes; we do not race
> >because of prizes.
> >
> >Daniele Rossdeutscher
> >Left Coast Racing Team
> >
> >
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