[NCNCA] Women's Races

[Casey Kerrigan]

I think a better approach is to do this. If the combined 3/4 race will  
be using the 100 number series then give the Cat 4 riders numbers  
starting with 100 and go up and the Cat 3 riders with numbers 199 and  
come down. This way you can tell riders and officials that anyone with  
a number of say 160 or higher is a Cat 3 and anyone with a number of  
140 or less is a Cat 4. Makes things easier to sort out the results in  
the end.

Casey
On Apr 30, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Jim Volsansky wrote:

> All,
> A somewhat silver lining we are going to attempt colorcoding mixed  
> fields It'll be a colored stripe on the race number. This way if you  
> see a 3 go up the road and you're a 4 you don't have to chase it.
>
> Casey, are we OK in doing this?
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Casey Kerrigan <casey at caseykerrigan.com>
> To: NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:44:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races
>
> Sorry folks but I think starting fields separately is generally not
> the solution to this type of problem. You aren't suppose to have two
> groups on a crit course at once if there is a good chance that one
> field can catch the other. Starting the two fields separately means
> that they aren't suppose to mix if the two groups catch. As an
> official I've seen to many messes when two fields, started separately,
> catch then then spend most of the rest of the race mixing up together.
> Or one or more riders attack just as one group is being caught and
> then  use the faster group to stay away from the group that was caught
> ( or at least that is the complaint from the riders in the group that
> was caught and they never catch the break.
>
> There are also safety issues like one group sprinting into the back of
> another group on the finish or if you have a major crash in one group
> ( with a rider seriously injured in the middle of the racing line)
> with a second group quickly approaching. With only one group on the
> course race staff has more time to get to the injured rider and more
> time to set up marshals to wave riders around the injured rider.
>
> Casey
> On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Ron Castia wrote:
>
>> The solution is quite simple.
>> Show the promoters that the market is there and we will accommodate
>> the demand.
>>
>> While picking the 3/4s separately may not be a perfect solution for
>> the Women, it is a step in the right direction and a compromise. The
>> alternative is running the fields together and not picking  
>> separately.
>>
>> Taking Rick's suggestion about staggered starts is an option worth
>> weighing on race day. It will mostly be up to the refs and the field.
>>
>> Maybe most have not really looked at our race yet, but the Women 3s
>> have two opportunities to race, with an engineered break in between.
>>
>> Advice given to me on unrelated topics, it might make sense for
>> folks take a step back and count the blessings rather than curse  
>> them.
>>
>> Show the promoters you appreciate the efforts by pre-registering,
>> then send us suggestions on how you would like to see things  
>> improved.
>> Your suggestions carry more weight when they are backed by dollars
>> bills.
>>
>> Complaining about something that is speculative for the promoter in
>> the first place is a great insurance policy for there being no
>> speculation the next year. The path becomes extremely clear.
>>
>> You Savvy?
>>
>> Ron
>> (I guess I just lost my diplomacy award)
>
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