[NCNCA] Women's Races

Wed Apr 30 13:12:44 PDT 2008

While it is nice for more people to get prizes, I prefer not to have categories picked separately most of the time.  It leads to people in the middle of the pack sprinting into people who are sitting up because they aren't in the money and can lead to an increased risk of crashes in the final lap/sprint.> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:03:23 -0700> From: zronn at sbcglobal.net> To: rickwarner at cycle-tours.com> CC: ncnca at ncnca.org> Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races> > True, but if it were not such a speculative category for a promoter to run, the solution would be easy.> We are picking the 3s and 4s separately.> > Ron> > ----- Original Message ----> From: Rick Warner <rickwarner at cycle-tours.com>> To: Ron Castia <zronn at sbcglobal.net>> Cc: NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:02:55 AM> Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races> > > One other aspect is both Cats Hill and EBC have combined 3/4 fields for the women. A lot of the W4's I know hate it because the 3's run the race and they do not get a good experience, and a lot of the 3's I've talked to are happier without racing with some of the novices in the 4's for safety reasons. I know women in both fields who tend to avoid the combined field races. Some will relent in the end, but others will stay home or on the sidelines.> > - rick> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Ron Castia <zronn at sbcglobal.net> wrote:> OK, how about we stop taking everything the wrong way here?> It's not a slap at all, as matter of fact it could be seen as exactly the opposite.> > If you did pre-register, thank you for being one of the few to show us early that we won't have an empty course and for setting a good example.> Hold your head proud that you are setting a good example.> > Gordon and I are just saying, show us that our efforts to acknowledge your needs will be returned in kind by a little pre-reg.> It let's a promoter have some idea of what to expect day of.> > There is a balance that needs to exist, it can't be a 1 way street.> > Thanks,> Ron (who will be hand picking the purple skittles out just for Eli)> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: "Morgan, Cathy L." <cathy.morgan at pillsburylaw.com>> To: Ron Castia <zronn at sbcglobal.net>; NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:03:50 AM> Subject: RE: [NCNCA] Women's Races> > Nice slap to those of us who have already registered. Just sayin'.> clm> > -----Original Message-----> From: ncnca-bounces+cathy.morgan=pillsburylaw.com at ncnca.org> [mailto:ncnca-bounces+cathy.morgan=pillsburylaw.com at ncnca.org] On Behalf> Of Ron Castia> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:02 AM> To: NCNCA> Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races> > It's not just Cat's Hill.> At the EBC Criterium we are doing a 40% cash payback 10 deep for the> Pro 1/2/3 Women and have no entries, none, zero, zip. What's up with> that/> > We really wanted to support Women this year and offered 3 fields. We> have a total of 10 Women registered.> > If you are going to be the loudest to complain, it's a good idea to show> some love when your voice is acknowledged.> Right now, we are not seeing it and the Women's fields are hinting that> they may be just a big waste of our schedule time.> We could have easily just run more masters 4s and 3s and made some bank,> or gone home early.> > Ron> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: "Gordon, Barry" <Bgordon at Structint.com>> To: NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:59:27 AM> Subject: [NCNCA] Cat's Hill Women's Races> > NCNCA,> > Last year the LGBRC made the bad decision to replace the Women's 3/4> race with Master 45 race and the cycling community let us know in no> uncertain terms that we made a BIG mistake. Therefore, we reinstated> the women's 3/4 race plus increased the cash prize list for the women's> 1/2/3 race from $600/6 places to $1000/10 places in 2008. So what is> the response to our return to sanity? We currently have 11 women> pre-registered for each race. (As it stands now only one 1/2/3 woman> will place out of the money.)> > Lots of people last year complained about our dumb decision and we> listened to you. In return, we hope that the cycling community would> have a change of heart and would support our women's races this> Saturday.> > On-line registration: www.catshill.org> > Thank you for your consideration.> > Barry Gordon, President> Los Gatos Bicycle Racing Club> Team Easton/SugarCRM/Specialized> A USA Cycling Club of the Year> www.lgbrc.org> 408-978-8200> bgordon at structint.com> > > > _______________________________________________> NCNCA discussion list> NCNCA at ncnca.org> http://lists.ncnca.org/mailman/listinfo/ncnca> > > > _______________________________________________> NCNCA discussion list> NCNCA at ncnca.org> http://lists.ncnca.org/mailman/listinfo/ncnca> > > ============================================================> The contents of this message, together with any attachments, are intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed and may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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