[NCNCA] Women's Races

Wed Apr 30 12:11:18 PDT 2008

Sorry, I didn't mean for that link to get in there.

Captain Nimrod wrote:
> So Rick, you're saying divide the field of 11 and give each half their 
> own race? What's next? Each individual gets their own race? Oh, wait, we 
> already have that. It's called a TIME TRIAL.
>
> Mass start bike racing is a dangerous sport, no matter what race you 
> enter or what precautions you take. Just ask some of the women from the 
> P-123 race at the Wente Crit last weekend. Or ask me, I'd be happy to 
> send pictures of some of my crashes/injuries. Question for everybody: 
> Maybe some courses are just not for beginners? 
> <http://www.54x11.com/photos/FacePlant/pages/faceplant-024hrs-sm.htm>
>
> You just can't please everybody. People should be very friggin' happy to 
> get to race on such a great course as the Cat's Hill course AT ALL! 
> Thank you Barry and LGBRC!
>
> I know I shouldn't get so wound up about this, but I have been hearing 
> the same story for 25 years and it never changes!
>
> Go ahead, flame me.
>
> Cap'n Nim
>
> Rick Warner wrote:
>   
>> One other aspect is both Cats Hill and EBC have combined 3/4 fields for the
>> women.  A lot of the W4's I know hate it because the 3's run the race and
>> they do not get a good experience, and a lot of the 3's I've talked to are
>> happier without racing with some of the novices in the 4's for safety
>> reasons.  I know women in both fields who tend to avoid the combined field
>> races.  Some will relent in the end, but others will stay home or on the
>> sidelines.
>>
>> - rick
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Ron Castia <zronn at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> OK, how about we stop taking everything the wrong way here?
>>> It's not a slap at all, as matter of fact it could be seen as exactly the
>>> opposite.
>>>
>>> If you did pre-register, thank you for being one of the few to show us
>>> early that we won't have an empty course and for setting a good example.
>>> Hold your head proud that you are setting a good example.
>>>
>>> Gordon and I are just saying, show us that our efforts to acknowledge your
>>> needs will be returned in kind by a little pre-reg.
>>> It let's a promoter have some idea of what to expect day of.
>>>
>>> There is a balance that needs to exist, it can't be a 1 way street.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ron (who will be hand picking the purple skittles out just for Eli)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "Morgan, Cathy L." <cathy.morgan at pillsburylaw.com>
>>> To: Ron Castia <zronn at sbcglobal.net>; NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:03:50 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [NCNCA] Women's Races
>>>
>>> Nice slap to those of us who have already registered. Just sayin'.
>>> clm
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ncnca-bounces+cathy.morgan=pillsburylaw.com at ncnca.org
>>> [mailto:ncnca-bounces+cathy.morgan <ncnca-bounces%2Bcathy.morgan>=
>>> pillsburylaw.com at ncnca.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Ron Castia
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:02 AM
>>> To: NCNCA
>>> Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races
>>>
>>> It's not just Cat's Hill.
>>> At the EBC  Criterium we are doing a 40% cash payback 10 deep for the
>>> Pro 1/2/3 Women and have no entries, none, zero, zip. What's up with
>>> that/
>>>
>>> We really wanted to support Women this year and offered 3 fields. We
>>> have a total of 10 Women registered.
>>>
>>> If you are going to be the loudest to complain, it's a good idea to show
>>> some love when your voice is acknowledged.
>>> Right now, we are not seeing it and the Women's fields are hinting that
>>> they may be just a big waste of our schedule time.
>>> We could have easily just run more masters 4s and 3s and made some bank,
>>> or gone home early.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "Gordon, Barry" <Bgordon at Structint.com>
>>> To: NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:59:27 AM
>>> Subject: [NCNCA] Cat's Hill Women's Races
>>>
>>> NCNCA,
>>>
>>> Last year the LGBRC made the bad decision to replace the Women's 3/4
>>> race with Master 45 race and the cycling community let us know in no
>>> uncertain terms that we made a BIG mistake.  Therefore, we reinstated
>>> the women's 3/4 race plus increased the cash prize list for the women's
>>> 1/2/3 race from $600/6 places to $1000/10 places in 2008.  So what is
>>> the response to our return to sanity?  We currently have 11 women
>>> pre-registered for each race.  (As it stands now only one 1/2/3 woman
>>> will place out of the money.)
>>>
>>> Lots of people last year complained about our dumb decision and we
>>> listened to you.  In return, we hope that the cycling community would
>>> have a change of heart and would support our women's races this
>>> Saturday.
>>>
>>> On-line registration: www.catshill.org
>>>
>>> Thank you for your consideration.
>>>
>>> Barry Gordon, President
>>> Los Gatos Bicycle Racing Club
>>> Team Easton/SugarCRM/Specialized
>>> A USA Cycling Club of the Year
>>> www.lgbrc.org
>>> 408-978-8200
>>> bgordon at structint.com
>>>
>>>
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