[NCNCA] Women's Races

[Garry Birch]

I feel for Ron and Barry and also understand where Soni is coming from.

However, as a past and probably future race organizer, the not knowing how
many will turn up, and thus whether the income will be there to cover race
expenses is a very big worry.

Maybe all races should be pre-register only?

Garry




-----Original Message-----
From: ncnca-bounces+gbirch=irelandeng.com at ncnca.org
[mailto:ncnca-bounces+gbirch=irelandeng.com at ncnca.org]On Behalf Of soni
andreini poulsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:07 AM
To: Ron Castia; NCNCA
Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races



I agree that if women are going to complain about lack of fields, they need
to show up when they get what they were asking for.

However, women are not big on pre-registering.  They rarely need to because
fields don't fill.  And life, for me, makes it hard to plan more than 2 days
in advance.  So I often choose not to pre-register unless I know for sure I
will be able to attend.

So maybe we all need to be spanked for complaining about small fields and
then not showing up, but you really should wait until after the races are
over to get nasty about it.

Soni> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:01:37 -0700> From: zronn at sbcglobal.net> To:
ncnca at ncnca.org> Subject: Re: [NCNCA] Women's Races> > It's not just Cat's
Hill.> At the EBC Criterium we are doing a 40% cash payback 10 deep for the
Pro 1/2/3 Women and have no entries, none, zero, zip. What's up with that/>
> We really wanted to support Women this year and offered 3 fields. We have
a total of 10 Women registered.> > If you are going to be the loudest to
complain, it's a good idea to show some love when your voice is
acknowledged.> Right now, we are not seeing it and the Women's fields are
hinting that they may be just a big waste of our schedule time.> We could
have easily just run more masters 4s and 3s and made some bank, or gone home
early.> > Ron> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: "Gordon, Barry"
<Bgordon at Structint.com>> To: NCNCA <ncnca at ncnca.org>> Sent: Wednesday, April
30, 2008 8:59:27 AM> Subject: [NCNCA] Cat's Hill Women's Races> > NCNCA,> >
Last year the LGBRC made the bad decision to replace the Women's 3/4> race
with Master 45 race and the cycling community let us know in no> uncertain
terms that we made a BIG mistake. Therefore, we reinstated> the women's 3/4
race plus increased the cash prize list for the women's> 1/2/3 race from
$600/6 places to $1000/10 places in 2008. So what is> the response to our
return to sanity? We currently have 11 women> pre-registered for each race.
(As it stands now only one 1/2/3 woman> will place out of the money.)> >
Lots of people last year complained about our dumb decision and we> listened
to you. In return, we hope that the cycling community would> have a change
of heart and would support our women's races this> Saturday.> > On-line
registration: www.catshill.org> > Thank you for your consideration. > >
Barry Gordon, President> Los Gatos Bicycle Racing Club> Team
Easton/SugarCRM/Specialized> A USA Cycling Club of the Year> www.lgbrc.org>
408-978-8200> bgordon at structint.com> > > >
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